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\u2018I do not think that Frodo\u2019s was a moral failure. At the last moment the pressure of the Ring would reach its maximum \u2013 impossible, I should have said, for any one to resist\u2019.<\/p>\n

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Very few (indeed so far as letters go only you and one other) have observed or commented on Frodo\u2019s \u2018failure\u2019. It is a very important point.<\/p>\n

From the point of view of the storyteller the events on Mt Doom proceed simply from the logic of the tale up to that time. They were not deliberately worked up to nor foreseen until they occurred. But, for one thing, it became at last quite clear that Frodo after all that had happened would be incapable of voluntarily destroying the Ring. Reflecting on the solution after it was arrived at (as a mere event) I feel that it is central to the whole \u2018theory\u2019 of true nobility and heroism that is presented.
Frodo indeed \u2018failed\u2019 as a hero, as conceived by simple minds: he did not endure to the end; he gave in, ratted. I do not say \u2018simple minds\u2019 with contempt: they often see with clarity the simple truth and the absolute ideal to which effort must be directed, even if it is unattainable. Their weakness, however, is twofold. They do not perceive the complexity of any given situation in Time, in which an absolute ideal is enmeshed. They tend to forget that strange element in the World that we call Pity or Mercy, which is also an absolute requirement in moral judgement (since it is present in the Divine nature). In its highest exercise it belongs to God. For finite judges of imperfect knowledge it must lead to the use of two different scales of \u2018morality\u2019. To ourselves we must present the absolute ideal without compromise, for we do not know our own limits of natural strength (+ grace), and if we do not aim at the highest we shall certainly fall short of the utmost that we could achieve. To others, in any case of which we know enough to make a judgement, we must apply a scale tempered by \u2018mercy\u2019: that is, since we can with good will do this without the bias inevitable in judgements of ourselves, we must estimate the limits of another\u2019s strength and weigh this against the force of particular circumstances.<\/p>\n

I do not think that Frodo\u2019s was a moral failure. At the last moment the pressure of the Ring would reach its maximum \u2013 impossible, I should have said, for any one to resist, certainly after long possession, months of increasing torment, and when starved and exhausted. Frodo had done what he could and spent himself completely (as an instrument of Providence) and had produced a situation in which the object of his quest could be achieved. His humility (with which he began) and his sufferings were justly rewarded by the highest honour; and his exercise of patience and mercy towards Gollum gained him Mercy: his failure was redressed.<\/p>\n

We are finite creatures with absolute limitations upon the powers of our soul-body structure in either action or endurance. Moral failure can only be asserted, I think, when a man\u2019s effort or endurance falls short of his limits, and the blame decreases as that limit is closer approached. Nonetheless, I think it can be observed in history and experience that some individuals seem to be placed in \u2018sacrificial\u2019 positions: situations or tasks that for perfection of solution demand powers beyond their utmost limits, even beyond all possible limits for an incarnate creature in a physical world \u2013 in which a body may be destroyed, or so maimed that\u00a0it affects the mind and will. Judgement upon any such case should then depend on the motives and disposition with which he started out, and should weigh his actions against the utmost possibility of his powers, all along the road to whatever proved the breaking-point.<\/span><\/p>\n

Frodo undertook his quest out of love \u2013 to save the world he knew from disaster at his own expense, if he could; and also in complete humility, acknowledging that he was wholly inadequate to the task. His real contract was only to do what he could, to try to find a way, and to go as far on the road as his strength of mind and body allowed. He did that. I do not myself see that the breaking of his mind and will under demonic pressure after torment was any more a <\/span>moral<\/span><\/i> failure than the breaking of his body would have been \u2013 say, by being strangled by Gollum, or crushed by a falling rock.<\/span><\/p>\n

That appears to have been the judgement of Gandalf and Aragorn and of all who learned the full story of his journey. Certainly nothing would be concealed by Frodo! But what Frodo himself felt about the events is quite another matter.<\/span><\/p>\n

He appears at first to have had no sense of guilt (Book VI, ch. 3); he was restored to <\/span>sanity<\/span><\/i> and peace. But then he thought that he had given his life in sacrifice: he expected to die very soon. But he did not, and one can observe the disquiet growing in him. Arwen was the first to observe the signs, and gave him her jewel for comfort, and thought of a way of healing him.<\/span> Slowly he fades \u2018out of the picture\u2019, saying and doing less and less. I think it is clear on reflection to an attentive reader that when his dark times came upon him and he was conscious of being \u2018wounded by knife sting and tooth and a long burden\u2019 (Book VI, ch. 7) it was not only nightmare memories of past horrors that afflicted him, but also unreasoning self-reproach: he saw himself and all that he [had] done as a broken failure. \u2018Though I may come to the Shire, it will not seem the same, for I shall not be the same.\u2019 That was actually a temptation out of the Dark, a last flicker of pride: desire to have returned as a \u2018hero\u2019, not content with temptation, blacker and yet (in a sense) more merited, for however that may be explained, he had not in fact cast away the Ring by a voluntary act: he was tempted to regret its destruction, and still to desire it. \u2018It is gone for ever, and now all is dark and empty\u2019, he said as he wakened from his sickness in 1420.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u2018Alas! There are some wounds that cannot be wholly cured\u2019, said Gandalf (Book VI, ch. 7) \u2013 not in Middle-earth. Frodo was sent or allowed to pass over Sea to heal him \u2013 if that could be done, <\/span>before he died<\/span><\/i>. He would have eventually to \u2018pass away\u2019: no mortal could, or can,\u00a0<\/span>abide for ever on earth, or within Time. So he went both to a purgatory and to a reward, for a while: a period of reflection and peace and a gaining of a truer understanding of his position in littleness and in greatness, spent still in Time amid the natural beauty of \u2018Arda Unmarred\u2019, the Earth unspoiled by evil.<\/span><\/p>\n

Bilbo went too. No doubt as a completion of the plan due to Gandalf himself. Gandalf had a very great affection for Bilbo, from the hobbit\u2019s childhood onwards. His companionship was really necessary for Frodo\u2019s sake \u2013 it is difficult to imagine a hobbit, even one who had been through Frodo\u2019s experiences, being really happy even in an earthly paradise without a companion of his own kind, and Bilbo was the person that Frodo most loved. (Cf Book VI, ch. 6.) But he also needed and deserved the favour on his own account. He bore still the mark of the Ring that needed to be finally erased: a trace of pride and personal possessiveness. Of course he was old and confused in mind, but it was still a revelation of the \u2018black mark\u2019 when he said in Rivendell (Book VI, ch. 6) \u2018What\u2019s become of <\/span>my<\/span><\/i> ring, Frodo, that you took away?\u2019; and when he was reminded of what had happened, his immediate reply was: \u2018What a pity! I should have liked to see it again\u2019. As for reward for his part, it is difficult to feel that his life would be complete without an experience of \u2018pure Elvishness\u2019, and the opportunity of hearing the legends and histories in full the fragments of which had so delighted him.<\/span><\/p>\n

It is clear, of course, that the plan had actually been made and concerted (by Arwen, Gandalf and others) before Arwen spoke. But Frodo did not immediately take it in; the implications would slowly be understood on reflection. Such a journey would at first seem something not necessarily to be feared, even as something to look forward to \u2013 so long as undated and postponable. His real desire was hobbitlike (and humanlike) just \u2018to be himself\u2019 again and get back to the old familiar life that had been interrupted. Already on the journey back from Rivendell he suddenly saw that was not for him possible. Hence his cry \u2018Where shall I find rest?\u2019 He knew the answer, and Gandalf did not reply. As for Bilbo, it is probable that Frodo did not at first understand what Arwen meant by \u2018he will not again make any long journey save one\u2019. At any rate he did not associate it with his own case. When Arwen spoke (in TA 3019) he was still young, not yet 51, and Bilbo 78 years older. But at Rivendell he came to understand things more clearly. The conversations he had there are not reported, but enough is revealed in Elrond\u2019s farewell Bk VI, ch. 6. From the onset of the first sickness (Oct. 5, 3019) Frodo must have been thinking about \u2018sailing\u2019, though still resisting a final decision \u2013 to go with Bilbo, or to go at all. It was no doubt after his grievous illness in March 3020 that his mind was made up.<\/span><\/p>\n

Sam is meant to be lovable and laughable. Some readers he irritates and even infuriates. I can well understand it. All hobbits at times affect me in the same way, though I remain very fond of them. But Sam can be very \u2018trying\u2019. He is a more representative hobbit than any others that we have to see much of; and he has consequently a stronger ingredient of that quality which even some hobbits found at times hard to bear: a vulgarity \u2013 by which I do not mean a mere \u2018down-to-earthiness\u2019 \u2013 a mental myopia which is proud of itself, a smugness (in varying degrees) and cocksureness, and a readiness to measure and sum up all things from a limited experience, largely enshrined in sententious traditional \u2018wisdom\u2019. We only meet exceptional hobbits in close companionship \u2013 those who had a grace or gift: a vision of beauty, and a reverence for things nobler than themselves, at war with their rustic self-satisfaction. Imagine Sam without his education by Bilbo and his fascination with things Elvish! Not difficult. The Cotton family and the Gaffer, when the \u2018Travellers\u2019 return are a sufficient glimpse.<\/span><\/p>\n

Sam was cocksure, and deep down a little conceited; but his conceit had been transformed by his devotion to Frodo. He did not think of himself as heroic or even brave, or in any way admirable \u2013 except in his service and loyalty to his master. That had an ingredient (probably inevitable) of pride and possessiveness: it is difficult to exclude it from the devotion of those who perform such service. In any case it prevented him from fully understanding the master that he loved, and from following him in his gradual education to the nobility of service to the unlovable and of perception of damaged good in the corrupt. He plainly did not fully understand Frodo\u2019s motives or his distress in the incident of the Forbidden Pool. If he had understood better what was going on between Frodo and Gollum, things might have turned out differently in the end. For me perhaps the most tragic moment in the Tale comes in Book IV, ch. 8 ff. when Sam fails to note the complete change in Gollum\u2019s tone and aspect. \u2018Nothing, nothing\u2019, said Gollum softly. \u2018Nice master!\u2019. His repentance is blighted and all Frodo\u2019s pity is (in a sense<\/span>) wasted. Shelob\u2019s lair became inevitable.<\/span><\/p>\n

This is due of course to the \u2018logic of the story\u2019. Sam could hardly have acted differently. (He did reach the point of pity at last (Book VI, ch. 3) but for the good of Gollum too late.) If he had, what could then have happened? The course of the entry into Mordor and the struggle to reach Mount Doom would have shifted to Gollum, I think, and the battle that would have gone on between his repentance and his new love on one side and the Ring. Though the love would have been strengthened daily it could not have wrested the mastery from the Ring. I think that in some queer twisted and pitiable way Gollum would have tried (not maybe with conscious design) to satisfy both. Certainly at some point not long before the end he would have stolen the Ring or taken it by violence (as he does in the actual Tale). But \u2018possession\u2019 satisfied, I think he would then have sacrificed himself for Frodo\u2019s sake and have <\/span>voluntarily<\/span><\/i> cast himself into the fiery abyss.<\/span><\/p>\n

I think that an effect of his partial regeneration by love would have been a clearer vision when he claimed the Ring. He would have perceived the evil of Sauron, and suddenly realized that he could not use the Ring and had not the strength or stature to keep it in Sauron\u2019s despite: the only way to keep it and hurt Sauron was to destroy it and himself together \u2013 and in a flash he may have seen that this would also be the greatest service to Frodo. Frodo in the tale actually takes the Ring and claims it, and certainly he too would have had a clear vision \u2013 but he was not given any time: he was immediately attacked by Gollum. When Sauron was aware of the seizure of the Ring his one hope was in its power: that the claimant would be unable to relinquish it until Sauron had time to deal with him. Frodo too would then probably, if not attacked, have had to take the same way: cast himself with the Ring into the abyss. If not he would of course have completely failed. It is an interesting problem: how Sauron would have acted or the claimant have resisted. Sauron sent at once the Ringwraiths. They were naturally fully instructed, and in no way deceived as to the real lordship of the Ring. The wearer would not be invisible to them, but the reverse; and the more vulnerable to their weapons. But the situation was now different to that under Weathertop, where Frodo acted merely in fear and wished only to use (in vain) the Ring\u2019s subsidiary power of conferring invisibility. He had grown since then. Would they have been immune from its power if he claimed it as an instrument of command and domination?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Not wholly. I do not think they could have attacked him with violence, nor laid hold upon him or taken him captive; they would have obeyed or feigned to obey any minor commands of his that did not interfere with their errand \u2013 laid upon them by Sauron, who still through their nine rings (which he held) had primary control of their wills. That errand was to remove Frodo from the Crack. Once he lost the power or opportunity to <\/span>destroy<\/span><\/i> the Ring, the end could not be in doubt \u2013 saving help from outside, which was hardly even remotely possible.<\/span><\/p>\n

Frodo had become a considerable person, but of a special kind: in spiritual enlargement rather than in increase of physical or mental power; his will was much stronger than it had been, but so far it had been exercised in resisting not using the Ring and with the object of destroying it. He needed time, much time, before he could control the Ring or (which in such a case is the same) before it could control him; before his will and arrogance could grow to a stature in which he could dominate other major hostile wills. Even so for a long time his acts and commands would still have to seem \u2018good\u2019 to him, to be for the benefit of others beside himself.<\/span><\/p>\n

The situation as between Frodo with the Ring and the Eight<\/span> might be compared to that of a small brave man armed with a devastating weapon, faced by eight savage warriors of great strength and agility armed with poisoned blades. The man\u2019s weakness was that he did not know how to use his weapon yet; and he was by temperament and training averse to violence. Their weakness that the man\u2019s weapon was a thing that filled them with fear as an object of terror in their religious cult, by which they had been conditioned to treat one who wielded it with servility. I think they would have shown \u2018servility\u2019. They would have greeted Frodo as \u2018Lord\u2019. With fair speeches they would have induced him to leave the Sammath Naur \u2013 for instance \u2018to look upon his new kingdom, and behold afar with his new sight the abode of power that he must now claim and turn to his own purposes\u2019. Once outside the chamber while he was gazing some of them would have destroyed the entrance. Frodo would by then probably have been already too enmeshed in great plans of reformed rule \u2013 like but far greater and wider than the vision that tempted Sam (Book VI, ch. 1) \u2013 to heed this. But if he still preserved some sanity and partly understood the significance of it, so that he refused now to go with them to Barad-d\u00fbr, they would simply have waited. Until Sauron himself came. In any case a confrontation of Frodo and Sauron would soon have taken place, if the Ring was intact. Its result was inevitable. Frodo would have been utterly overthrown: crushed to dust, or preserved in torment as a gibbering slave. Sauron would not have feared the Ring! It was his own and under his will. Even from afar he had an effect upon it, to make it work for its return to himself. In his actual presence none but very few of equal stature could have hoped to withhold it from him. Of \u2018mortals\u2019 no one, not even Aragorn. In the contest with the Palant\u00edr Aragorn was the rightful owner. Also the contest took place at a distance, and in a tale which allows the incarnation of great spirits in a physical and destructible form their power must be far greater when actually physically present. Sauron should be thought of as very terrible. The form that he took was that of a man of more than human stature, but not gigantic. In his earlier incarnation he was able to veil his power (as Gandalf did) and could appear as a commanding figure of great strength of body and supremely royal demeanour and countenance.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Of the others only Gandalf might be expected to master him \u2013 being an emissary of the Powers and a creature of the same order, an immortal spirit taking a visible physical form. In the \u2018Mirror of Galadriel\u2019, Book II, ch. 7, it appears the Galadriel conceived of herself as capable of wielding the Ring and supplanting the Dark Lord. If so, so also were the other guardians of the Three, especially Elrond. But this is another matter. It was part of the essential deceit of the Ring to fill minds with imaginations of supreme power. But this the Great had well considered and had rejected, as is seen in Elrond\u2019s words at the Council. Galadriel\u2019s rejection of the temptation was founded upon previous thought and resolve. In any case Elrond or Galadriel would have proceeded in the policy now adopted by Sauron: they would have built up an empire with great and absolutely subservient generals and armies and engines of war, until they could challenge Sauron and destroy him by force. Confrontation of Sauron alone, unaided, self to self was not contemplated. One can imagine the scene in which Gandalf, say, was placed in such a position. It would be a delicate balance. On one side the true allegiance of the Ring to Sauron; on the other superior strength because Sauron was not actually in possession, and perhaps also because he was weakened by long corruption and expenditure of will in dominating inferiors. If Gandalf proved the victor, the result would have been for Sauron the same as the destruction of the Ring; for him it would have been destroyed, taken from him for ever. But the Ring and all its works would have endured. It would have been the master in the end.<\/span><\/p>\n

Gandalf as Ring-Lord would have been far worse than Sauron. He would have remained \u2018righteous\u2019, but self-righteous. He would have continued to rule and order things for \u2018good\u2019, and the benefit of his subjects according to his wisdom (which was and would have remained great).<\/span><\/p>\n

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